Co-parenting is never easy, especially when you’re Gwyneth Paltrow and Chris Martin.

On Tuesday’s episode of The Drew Barrymore Show, Gwyneth discussed how she and the Coldplay frontman, who divorced in 2016, continue to be close for the sake of son Moses, 14, and daughter Apple, 16.

“It’s like you’re ending a marriage but you’re still in a family. That’s how it will be forever,” she said. “Some days it’s not as good as it looks. We also have good days and bad days, but I think it’s driving towards the same purpose of unity and love and what’s best for [our kids].”

“We have this idea that just because we break up we can’t love the things about the person anymore that we loved and that’s not true,” she added.

The actress added that in a way, “my divorce and my relationship with Chris now is better than our marriage was, so I think that it can be done.”

This is so real. We love you, Gwyneth. Watch the interview below: