Ann Curry explained to Stephen Colbert that she wasn’t exactly celebrating Matt Lauer’s exit from the Today show, saying that she does have a nondisclosure agreement: “I do, but I can talk. I’m bold. I don’t want to cause pain, you guys.”

“The truth is that I was raised Catholic by a Buddhist,” she said. “So think about the Catholic guilt, mixed with the karma, worries, the intensity of that. It was like all of the sudden my brain – think Game of Thrones – the wall, it went up. There was this whole wall of, ‘Uh-uh, you can’t talk like that. You can’t think like that.’ So I didn’t, actually, get to enjoy it.”

“But isn’t this his karma?” Stephen asked.

“Well, that’s a good point, but.. and also you have to think about the pain. You know, a lot of people have suffered,” she said, referencing victims of sexual harassment and assault. “So I haven’t had a chance to celebrate for a lot of reasons.”

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