Former communications director Sean Spicer appeared on Jimmy Kimmel Live! and seemed to try and prove he wasn’t a total liar during his short tenure.

“You can look at one set of facts and come out with one opinion… while the facts are the same here, I come out with a different conclusion,” he said.

Then Jimmy decided to test his truth telling skills: “I’m sitting on a horse right now,” he said.

“Well, you’re not,” Spicer said.

“Right,” Kimmel laughed. “Exactly!” Spicer laughed too.

Watch the interview below: