Kathy Lee Gifford revealed her sleep schedule, and it’s kinda insane.

“I’m not a snoozer,” she said on the Today show. “I don’t even have an alarm. I’ve been doing it for… since the 1800s before there were alarm clocks!”

She continued: “Then I lay there and pray for sinners like you, Sheinelle,” she said with a laugh to her cohost Sheinelle Jones. “I pray. I strategize. I think. I linger.”