While Sharon Stone is a staunch supporter of the #MeToo movement, she is coming at the defense of James Franco, who’s been accused by four female film students of sexual misconduct.

“I’m appalled with what’s happening with [James],” she told Marc Maron on his WTF podcast, citing the lack of “due process.” She then said he is “the loveliest, kindest, sweetest, most elegant, nicest” guy.

Then she goes on to explain the difference between harassers and morons, who she says “you go out with them, they bring you home for a good-night kiss and they grab your hand and put it on their penis. I don’t think they’re trying to sexually harass me, I think they’re just incredibly stupid and awkward.”