“Frankly, my dear, I don’t give a damn,” Mariah Carey told V Magazine about not having Grammy wins recently.

“In the music business, if you care about the Grammys and submitting your stuff before a certain time frame, you want a single out in the summer, and then you want to have your record [out] before the Grammys deadline, which has changed,” she said. “I mean, I have five Grammys. That’s cute. There’s people that have been doing this half the time that have twice as many. I won two Grammys the first year I started, but after that, [the Grammys] are like, ‘We don’t go with the people that are selling a lot of records and are popular; we’re gonna go the opposite way.’ So I got screwed out of certain years. I wasn’t bitter about it. I was just like, ‘Okay, well, I guess I’m not standing here barefoot onstage singing and trying to go a certain way.’ I’m just me.”

She also spoke about her new feminist-inspired career: “I think it’s like a fresh start. A lot of people see that whole other image. They see this diva: They see hair, makeup, bod, clothes, whatever it is — and hand gestures — and they’re like, Oh,’” she said. “They don’t think ‘songwriter.’ But I look at myself as a songwriter first, and then a singer. That’s what I love to do the most.”

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