Ashley Judd has bravely spoken out for the first time since contributing to The New York Times article that catapulted the demise of Harvey Weinstein.

In an interview with ABC News, the actress said she offered to have sex with Harvey Weinstein later on in exchange for him to leave her alone. She also claimed to have never heard any stories about Harvey’s sexual assaults before she met him in a hotel room.

“I had no warning … I remember the lurch when I went to the desk and I said, ‘Mr. Weinstein, is he on the patio?’ and they said, ‘No, he’s in his room.’ I was like, ‘Ugh, are you kidding me?’ [But I went because] I had a business appointment. That’s his pattern of sexual predation. That’s how he rolled.”

She continued: “There’s this constant grooming negotiation going on… I thought ‘no’ meant ‘no. I fought with this volley of ‘nos,’ which he ignored. Who knows? Maybe he heard them as ‘maybe,’ maybe he heard them as ‘yeses,’ maybe they turned him on. I don’t know.”

Harvey led her to the closet, where he asked her to choose a suit for the day. Then he asked her to come to the bathroom: “He kept coming at me with all this other stuff, and finally I just said, ‘When I win an Oscar in one of your movies, okay?’ And he was like, ‘Yeah, when you get nominated.’ And I said, ‘No! When I win an Oscar.’ And I fled. I just fled.”

“Am I proud of that? I’m of two minds: The part that shames myself says no,” she said. “The part of me that understands the way shame works says, ‘That was absolutely brilliant. Good job, kid. You got out of there. Well done.’”

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