When you have money like Oprah, you don’t have time to stop by the bank and drop off your paycheck. In a new YouTube show called Ellen’s Show Me More Show, Oprah opened up about her bank life.

And come to find out, she has none. She hasn’t been to a bank since 1988!

When Ellen asked what her pin number was, she stared blankly. But after a while she asked Ellen when’s the last time she went to a bank, and Ellen replied: “A long, long time ago.”

But Oprah said she went to the bank recently “just to do it.”