Despite that Taylor Swift was nominated for several awards, she skipped out on the VMAs, which were hosted by her friend-turned-enemy Katy Perry — and now many are wondering if it was intentional.

When “I Don’t Wanna Live Forever” won Best Collaboration, the song’s co-writers Jack Anonoff and Sam Dew accepted the trophy without Taylor. At the end, when Katy Perry performed “Swish Swish,” there was no mention of Taylor.

In a 2014 interview with Rolling Stone, Taylor referenced Katy, saying she was trying to “sabotage” her tour. “She did something so horrible,” she said. “I was like, ‘Oh, we’re just straight-up enemies.’ And it wasn’t even about a guy! It had to do with business. She basically tried to sabotage an entire arena tour. She tried to hire a bunch of people out from under me. And I’m surprisingly non-confrontational — you would not believe how much I hate conflict. So now I have to avoid her. It’s awkward, and I don’t like it.”