Since an Access Hollywood tape was leaked revealing Donald Trump bragging that he can grab women by “the p*ssy” and they’ll let him because he’s a celebrity, Billy Bush, who was hosting the segment, was  fired from his TV gigs.

Now in an interview with The Hollywood Reporter, Billy opens up more about the incident.

“I will admit the irony is glaring. [Trump] has his process for his participation [in the tape], and I have mine. I had to turn this into a positive,” he said. “Looking back on what was said on that bus, I wish I had changed the topic. I wish I had said: ‘Does anyone want water?’ or ‘It looks like it’s gonna rain.’ He liked TV and competition. I could’ve said, ‘Can you believe the ratings on whatever?’ I didn’t have the strength of character to do it.”

He also agreed that what Donald said wasn’t “locker room talk:”

“I‘m in a lot of locker rooms, I am an athlete, and no, that is not the type of conversation that goes on or that I’ve participated in,” Billy said. “I don’t think I’d interview Trump. It would be a spectacle. In television, we love a spectacle, but I’ve come too far and learned too much. There are others that I’d rather interview, like Emmanuel Macron of France.”

Billy revealed that the leaked tape wound up bringing his 16-year old daughter to tears.

“She was really upset, and I said, ‘Mary, it’s, it’s, going to be OK. You know, don’t worry.’ And she said, ‘No. Why were you laughing at the things that he was saying on that bus? Why were you playing along with it, Dad? It wasn’t funny.’ I said, ‘Mary, I am sorry. And there is no good answer for that.’”