Chelsea Handler & Gloria Steinem Dished About Feminism, And it Was Incredible

Comedian Chelsea Handler and activist Gloria Steinem sat down with The New York Times at their TimesTalks event to dish about feminism, Trump, and Hillary Clinton. And let’s say, things got very interesting.

Chelsea on being single: “I function better as an independent person. I think that when you are single, you have to appreciate your singledom because it’s empowering for men and for women to not be tethered to somebody: To be able to get up and say, ‘I’m gonna go to Spain for the weekend. I’m gonna do this and actually go and live an unexpected, fun, full life.’ So don’t always worry about meeting somebody when you are single. The best thing about being single is when you’re not worried about it.”

Gloria on raking up the courage to JUST DO IT: “I think everybody knows what to do; everybody knows something to do. If we look up, we feel disempowered. If we look at each other, we feel empowered. If we stop saying, ‘should…what should I do?’ and just say, ‘I’m going to do everything I can, everyday.’ We all have this knowledge. So I worry more that people are being passive and asking, and more encouraged that they are not being passive and just doing it.”

“You have to sometimes sit down and check in with yourself and recognize if you’re happy,” Chelsea chimed in. “Sometimes people forget to take a look because you’re not with a partner, so you’re like, I’m supposed to [get married and have children because] everyone tells you you’re supposed to, and be a conformist. And then you sit down and think, ‘Wait a second, [my life] is pretty sweet.’ Whatever your life is, don’t just assume you’re not happy. You might actually be happy.”

Gloria on Hillary’s loss: “I think there is a higher level of virtue [or] sinless-ness that comes with being a female human being. You have to be more perfect and if there’s some flaw, it’s more difficult. But I think that there are deeper things too. We’re mostly raised by women, so we associate female authority with childhood. And especially for men, I think it’s scary because they see an authoritative woman above them, and they feel regressed [to] childhood. They feel eight-years-old again because that was the last time they saw a woman in power. No one on earth, that I can think of, has been more lied about than Hillary Clinton. So many lies about her. And I could see that [when I was] campaigning.”

Chelsea on paying attention to issues that don’t necessarily affect us all: “For me to think that [issues] aren’t happening to a million other people just because it didn’t happen to me is irresponsible. But I think the whole purpose of this election and the whole purpose of the [political] climate we are in right now, which is really, really magical at times, it’s a reminder that it doesn’t matter if it affects you. It’s what is happening to other people. The people that really voted for Donald Trump, they’re not Muslim, gay, women, whatever. That’s what we can’t have. You can’t vote for things that only direct you and your bank account.”

H/T: Elle